Wednesday, September 14, 2011

The Absence Of Evidence...

...Is not the evidence of absence!

In the wake of John's hiatus, I began frequenting a blog run by a fundamentalist Christan to sate my rhetorical blood lust. Regarding the media's attitude towards homosexuality, Sola quoted this passage from Paul:
And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them (Romans 1:28-32).
At first I glanced at this, later I really read through and pondered it. Looking at this passage critically, as a student of history, I can't accept this at face value.

I figure that Paul is criticising the Hellenistic/Roman culture that was seeping into his own at this point in history. Paul was a devout Jew, and later a devout Christian,  and the values of the decadent Romanized world didn't jive with traditional Jewish values. Now, when it comes to homosexuality I can understand Paul's point. We've all heard a hundred times about the Greek and Roman penchant for buggery. While I think that's a little overplayed, it's still valid to say that Romans might have given "hearty approval" to the act while within an earshot of Paul.

But murder, strife, deceit, arrogance, boastfulness? Untrustworthy behavior?

It's hard to imagine a functioning society where such vices aren't just tolerated but are applauded. Such a society couldn't be sustained for a year, let alone 400+. What is Paul referring to? A few bad eggs casting a bad impression on the whole bunch? Maybe. What I think is more likely is that Paul is criticising the lack of open condemnation, and legal action against these evil ones. Proto-western culture, while not wholely wicked did not necessarily move to attack immoral behavior in it's citizens. The status quo was not to attempt legal supression of moral nastiness, unless it reached an extent of interfering with civic business. Upstanding citizens might view liars and braggarts negatively, but there wasn't a mandate to chop their hands off either. Your average citizen certainly wouldn't say "YAY" to theft or murder (exception: criminals in the arena).

The traditions of the middle east, however, were just the opposite. Law was derived from a class of Priest-Kings who's sole interest was making God happy by punishing immorality, with little to no concept of rights or consenting adults yada yada.

This culture shock is still being carried on today. The middle eastern model of morality-based lawmaking has a modern representative, in those very same words from Paul, and those that use them as a guide for civil and private morality.

The mainstream media certainly doesn't condemn homosexuality. Likewise the media does indeed portray Paul's heirs as intolerant and cruel. However, the media does not give "hearty approval" to homosexual behavior. No. The media does not give the thumbs up to anal sex. It does not celebrate a penis going into a butt. Ditto to fellatio, rimjobs and scissoring.

Featuring homosexuals prominently, without criticising the behavior is not equivalent to approval. Failure to condemn is not approval. Failure to assert is not the same as denial. This is not nitpicking, it's an distinction that is essential to a functioning democracy. It is criticial to western civilization to be able to look at something and basically say "meh", without it being interpreted as support.

4 comments:

  1. I'm not feeling quite able to address all of this but I do want to say something on the media and coverage of gay issues.

    You are correct, Piers Morgan is not on TV talking about the moral superiority of butt sex. Even Keith Olbermann probably hasn't said publicly that dudes give better head.

    But that doesn't matter. They are instead openly condemning those who disagree. Whether or not that ipso facto celebrates the other view is a matter of debate I guess.

    Also a recent study (day or two ago) said 53 percent of Americans support gay marriage. A majority, but not so much that one would expect near universal condemnation for the opposite view.

    Here's how it goes if you're anyone that people have heard of (celebrityish).

    Person of interest expresses support for traditional marriage. It becomes news. Next up is the media reaching out to GLBT spokespeople for condemning quotes/offers to educate.

    If an athlete, he probably keeps his job. Same for a high profile coach. But administrators, officials and others involved are shamed into "resigning" all for holding such "hateful" views.

    Am I over doing it?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/12/sports/olympics/gay-marriage-stance-costs-vidmar-olympic-role.html

    http://nymag.com/news/sports/games/gay-athletes-2011-9/

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2765926/posts

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-consultant-fired-by-bank-of-america-over-gay-marriage-book-55047/

    I could go on.

    You are right that featuring them without criticizing them is not approval, but I suggest that slamming all who disagree with them, is approval.

    I try to avoid saying "the media" but on this front, it is pretty clear. It's not a conspiracy, it's just the attitudes of most media folk seem to be pro-gay, anti-anyone else and they aren't trying to hard to play it down the middle.


    Being anti-gay marriage is treated like it's a hate crime. It's crimethink.

    I agree with the last paragraph you wrote, and I don't know if I buy that Sola guy's whole deal, but the media (sorry) is one sided on this issue.

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  2. I think the media covers stories like that, and probably enflame it further, because they see it as news. Better than that, scandelous news. I accept the probablility that most journalists are biased toward liberalism. I do not accept that they would take that bias to the extent of manufacturing stories by picking out an obscure comment or fact and exploding it by seeking out gay rights people to comment.

    The controversy starts before the news gets involved. In every case that you listed, there was a controversy between an individual and a group, or an individual and an employer.

    Someone prominent exposes their beliefs in some way, or has them exposed, not by the media but by a gay-rights watchdog or employer. Then there's a struggle over it as the person in question (justifiably) feels that he's being treated unfairly. Then the news media smells this and publicizes the story.

    You could argue that gay rights people are intolerant of civil dissent (although in some cases they were merely giving their own opinion on that persons views, not calling for his ouster).

    You could argue that employers panic when they see a less than politically correct note in someones history.

    You could argue that the news doesn't have a good enough governance over what is deemed "newsworthy", and what is merely dumb noise.

    But I don't think you can argue that the news is intentionally using their medium to encourage a negative opinion of gay rights dissenters because of their own biases.

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  3. While I agree with you that they are not fabricating stories, and I'll even agree that they're not taking total fringe things and elevating them, they're not playing it straight. (No pun intended)

    Try the other shoe. Guy comes out in favor of gay marriage. Conservative watchdog groups condemn that, too. But nothing comes of it unless he's a prominent religious figure or republican.

    And I don't think this is all a conspiracy really. I think they see the conservatives get condemned because they follow these liberal watchdog groups etc on twitter or other places.

    When they do see a conservative group speak out, it's ignored as fringe or hateful the same way they ignore the KKK.

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  4. Yeah, that's fair. Good point.

    They see conflict between left-wing radicals and a public figure as "controversy". They see conflict between right-wing radicals and public figures as nothing newsworthy. Just some nutballs going off. At least when it comes to gay stuff. They're happy to treat tea-party fringe like it's newsworthy controversy.

    I don't think you've got a conspiracy theory going, I'm just saying that their view on what's tolerant or not isn't really playing into the coverage. They just want "the scoop".

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